Comments on: Comics: Marvel VS. DC http://www.newuniversity.org/2009/02/features/comics_marvel_vs_dc177/ Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:15:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: mighty D http://www.newuniversity.org/2009/02/features/comics_marvel_vs_dc177/comment-page-1/#comment-12111 mighty D Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:39:29 +0000 http://newuword1.thomasjbaker.net/?page_id=5549#comment-12111 i have read many comics even though i am only 16 marvel is mare cartooney while dc is more gothic or almost more serious i have read on here that dc have better villains i do agree but i personally think marvel has better heroes who wins idont know we will never know it is always always always personal opinion u cannot base it on any so called 'facts' i have read many comics even though i am only 16 marvel is mare cartooney while dc is more gothic or almost more serious i have read on here that dc have better villains i do agree but i personally think marvel has better heroes

who wins idont know

we will never know

it is always always always personal opinion

u cannot base it on any so called ‘facts’

]]> By: rio bravo http://www.newuniversity.org/2009/02/features/comics_marvel_vs_dc177/comment-page-1/#comment-6338 rio bravo Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:43:31 +0000 http://newuword1.thomasjbaker.net/?page_id=5549#comment-6338 i beg to differ the marvel universe is much more globalised due to it instantly recognisable heros and villains, speaking of villains marvel has won that hands down all the best dc villains are that of batmans but when it comes to marvel the villains are much more developed and evil yes the jokers cool but to the every day guy thats all there is unlike instantly recognisable villains such as magneto or doctor doom and the green goblin as these character have been in various movies seen by the general public so you see. i beg to differ the marvel universe is much more globalised due to it instantly recognisable heros and villains, speaking of villains marvel has won that hands down all the best dc villains are that of batmans but when it comes to marvel the villains are much more developed and evil yes the jokers cool but to the every day guy thats all there is unlike instantly recognisable villains such as magneto or doctor doom and the green goblin as these character have been in various movies seen by the general public so you see.

]]> By: chris http://www.newuniversity.org/2009/02/features/comics_marvel_vs_dc177/comment-page-1/#comment-5622 chris Fri, 18 Mar 2011 07:52:50 +0000 http://newuword1.thomasjbaker.net/?page_id=5549#comment-5622 In a knockdown, drag out fight to the death between Marvel universe and Dc universe, who would win? This is one of the oldest unanswered questions around. Most people pick their favorite characters and side with them; others actually use statistics when coming to their own personal conclusions. The fact is because of a number of reasons this fight of a life time could go either way. For example, Dc’s numbers could easily be enough to win. On the other hand the fact that ninety nine percent of marvel characters are human is enough to lose. In a knockdown, drag out fight to the death between Marvel universe and Dc universe, who would win? This is one of the oldest unanswered questions around. Most people pick their favorite characters and side with them; others actually use statistics when coming to their own personal conclusions. The fact is because of a number of reasons this fight of a life time could go either way. For example, Dc’s numbers could easily be enough to win. On the other hand the fact that ninety nine percent of marvel characters are human is enough to lose.

]]> By: Jack http://www.newuniversity.org/2009/02/features/comics_marvel_vs_dc177/comment-page-1/#comment-2362 Jack Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:48:11 +0000 http://newuword1.thomasjbaker.net/?page_id=5549#comment-2362 Okay, It might seem low to point this out, but Marvel cannot compare to DC when it comes to movie adaptations, and character development. Look at Rorschach for example, you know, the guy with the ink-blot mask from Watchmen, he has come a pretty long way for just a normal acrobatic guy in a suit, Spiderman however, has amazing powers and like, 10,000 villains, but his stories get so repetitive, time and time again (why does it seem like SpiderMan, and any of his friends just cannot die?) why does Spiderman always win, and doesn't seem to have a scratch on him? DC is far more realistic when it comes to its heroes, they don't always win, sometimes they lose, and on occasion -die-, which is far better than the POW, ZWACK, and SMASH that only leaves the hero in Marvel dazed and confused. I have one other problem with Marvel, its far too oriented towards children (I mean really- the Itsy-Bitsy Spiderman doll), the premise of almost all Marvel comics, is that they're edited so much, they seem like Saturday Morning Kids Shows. In these Marvel Comics (Iron-Man, Hulk, Spiderman, Thor, etc.) there never seems to be real criminals, they're all biologically enhanced psychos, what about the common psycho who has a few tricks up his sleeve (cough, cough, the Joker), or the drug manipulating psychologist (Scarecrow), and lastly- the rich club manager (Penguin). None of those villains fell into a giant microwave, or got enhanced by some super-steriods, no, they're all just average, ming bending psychos, who just want to torment and kill the hero, unlike in Marvel where all the villains just want to tie the hero to a tree for revenge. Bottom line- I respect Marvel, but DC has my vote for overall quality when it comes to story/ Character development, and actually making things bearable for all ages, not just 7 year olds. Okay, It might seem low to point this out, but Marvel cannot compare to DC when it comes to movie adaptations, and character development. Look at Rorschach for example, you know, the guy with the ink-blot mask from Watchmen, he has come a pretty long way for just a normal acrobatic guy in a suit, Spiderman however, has amazing powers and like, 10,000 villains, but his stories get so repetitive, time and time again (why does it seem like SpiderMan, and any of his friends just cannot die?) why does Spiderman always win, and doesn’t seem to have a scratch on him? DC is far more realistic when it comes to its heroes, they don’t always win, sometimes they lose, and on occasion -die-, which is far better than the POW, ZWACK, and SMASH that only leaves the hero in Marvel dazed and confused.
I have one other problem with Marvel, its far too oriented towards children (I mean really- the Itsy-Bitsy Spiderman doll), the premise of almost all Marvel comics, is that they’re edited so much, they seem like Saturday Morning Kids Shows. In these Marvel Comics (Iron-Man, Hulk, Spiderman, Thor, etc.) there never seems to be real criminals, they’re all biologically enhanced psychos, what about the common psycho who has a few tricks up his sleeve (cough, cough, the Joker), or the drug manipulating psychologist (Scarecrow), and lastly- the rich club manager (Penguin). None of those villains fell into a giant microwave, or got enhanced by some super-steriods, no, they’re all just average, ming bending psychos, who just want to torment and kill the hero, unlike in Marvel where all the villains just want to tie the hero to a tree for revenge.

Bottom line- I respect Marvel, but DC has my vote for overall quality when it comes to story/ Character development, and actually making things bearable for all ages, not just 7 year olds.

]]> By: Comix http://www.newuniversity.org/2009/02/features/comics_marvel_vs_dc177/comment-page-1/#comment-2049 Comix Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:54:23 +0000 http://newuword1.thomasjbaker.net/?page_id=5549#comment-2049 Kevin Pease your article is biased and full of errors to be of any use. You seem to lack any real depth or understanding of the DC universe. Whether golden age or modern. So your views are just personal opinions. I didn't even read it all. Before you attempt another article my suggestions would be: Actually research what your writing about. This really helps. Don't copy Wikipedia. If you can access it, so can everybody else. If your article is a debate, can we actually see a debate please?! A few points: DC doesn't have cross overs? Your joking right? Wonder Twins? Not comics my friend. Aqua Man bottom of the barrel? That's simply rude. DC rocks when it comes to animated movies. Anyone into animation will agree with this. Plus Green Lantern movie out soon. Watch out Marvel dominated movies. Kevin Pease your article is biased and full of errors to be of any use.
You seem to lack any real depth or understanding of the DC universe. Whether golden age or modern. So your views are just personal opinions. I didn’t even read it all.

Before you attempt another article my suggestions would be:
Actually research what your writing about. This really helps.
Don’t copy Wikipedia. If you can access it, so can everybody else.
If your article is a debate, can we actually see a debate please?!

A few points:
DC doesn’t have cross overs? Your joking right?
Wonder Twins? Not comics my friend.
Aqua Man bottom of the barrel? That’s simply rude.
DC rocks when it comes to animated movies. Anyone into animation will agree with this.

Plus Green Lantern movie out soon. Watch out Marvel dominated movies.

]]> By: Bone http://www.newuniversity.org/2009/02/features/comics_marvel_vs_dc177/comment-page-1/#comment-997 Bone Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:11:26 +0000 http://newuword1.thomasjbaker.net/?page_id=5549#comment-997 I love the Marvel vs. DC debate. I really do and I'm sure everyone knows who I favor (with legitimate support and logic). But this tard is off as he comments on A-list DC characters and then immediately follows up with "bottom of the barrel" with the likes of Aquaman and the Wonder Twins making the DC list of heroes sub-par to Marvel. This amature doesn't read comics as the Wonder Twins were a Superfriends entity before they even were considered for their own comic or tying into the Super Friends comic. http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Wonder_Twins He's wrong to even tie them in with a "Comic" debate. Of course they won't hold any water. They are animated characters first with no support from a comic book stand point. The rest of his points are sh*tty attempts to ballwash Marvel movies and cartoons citing better quality (WTF) while DC cartoons and movies are... he offers nothing for DC. And his point about DC's crossovers is unwarranted. His last point that is that Marvel runs a better business. And I agree with that. But not when it comes to a Comic debate. My viewpoint would have to stipulate that the comics by themselves stand alone and the question would be: who produces the better comics? I love the Marvel vs. DC debate. I really do and I’m sure everyone knows who I favor (with legitimate support and logic). But this tard is off as he comments on A-list DC characters and then immediately follows up with “bottom of the barrel” with the likes of Aquaman and the Wonder Twins making the DC list of heroes sub-par to Marvel.

This amature doesn’t read comics as the Wonder Twins were a Superfriends entity before they even were considered for their own comic or tying into the Super Friends comic. http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Wonder_Twins

He’s wrong to even tie them in with a “Comic” debate. Of course they won’t hold any water. They are animated characters first with no support from a comic book stand point.

The rest of his points are sh*tty attempts to ballwash Marvel movies and cartoons citing better quality (WTF) while DC cartoons and movies are… he offers nothing for DC. And his point about DC’s crossovers is unwarranted.

His last point that is that Marvel runs a better business. And I agree with that. But not when it comes to a Comic debate. My viewpoint would have to stipulate that the comics by themselves stand alone and the question would be: who produces the better comics?

]]> By: marvel fan http://www.newuniversity.org/2009/02/features/comics_marvel_vs_dc177/comment-page-1/#comment-503 marvel fan Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:00:11 +0000 http://newuword1.thomasjbaker.net/?page_id=5549#comment-503 I don't even know why people argue about this anymore... its like religion. At this point you obviously aren't going to convert anyone from their camp unless they have been recently introduced to the debate. I prefer marvel simply because its so much more plausable (an oxymoron when refering to comics perhapse but then... everything's relative right?) On a slightly more irrationally trollish side-note I don't know how anyone could possibly try to argue that DC has as much interconnection than marvel. every marvel character has either individuals or groups they regularly come into contact with over and over so much that they can hardly be considered "guest stars" in each others' works anymore. that's just part of the definition of marvel. DC has.... justice league and the brave and the bold with ocasional guest... and teen titans. But at the core of it all... how is it fun to watch a superhero with God Mode turned on? Where is the appeal in reading about superman? at least marvel's hacker (wolverine) is nearly useless against his villian due to magnetic manipulation. Oh damn this is longer than i wanted it to be... the moral is don't flame people on the other side cause that won't help, all you can do is present your side and debate and in the end you might learn something but you probably won't change your mind. I don’t even know why people argue about this anymore… its like religion. At this point you obviously aren’t going to convert anyone from their camp unless they have been recently introduced to the debate. I prefer marvel simply because its so much more plausable (an oxymoron when refering to comics perhapse but then… everything’s relative right?) On a slightly more irrationally trollish side-note I don’t know how anyone could possibly try to argue that DC has as much interconnection than marvel. every marvel character has either individuals or groups they regularly come into contact with over and over so much that they can hardly be considered “guest stars” in each others’ works anymore. that’s just part of the definition of marvel. DC has…. justice league and the brave and the bold with ocasional guest… and teen titans. But at the core of it all… how is it fun to watch a superhero with God Mode turned on? Where is the appeal in reading about superman? at least marvel’s hacker (wolverine) is nearly useless against his villian due to magnetic manipulation. Oh damn this is longer than i wanted it to be… the moral is don’t flame people on the other side cause that won’t help, all you can do is present your side and debate and in the end you might learn something but you probably won’t change your mind.

]]> By: Henry http://www.newuniversity.org/2009/02/features/comics_marvel_vs_dc177/comment-page-1/#comment-164 Henry Fri, 02 Oct 2009 04:47:24 +0000 http://newuword1.thomasjbaker.net/?page_id=5549#comment-164 It's all about Superman and Batman. What you call Marvel Comics has existed since the sixties. Period. Don't pull the Captain America, Namor and Human Torch thing. DC has Superman and Batman. THE two A List characters. Marvel has Spider-Man, who will always rank third behind Superman and Batman. ALWAYS. Every other character at Marvel and DC ranks as B list. Wolverine, Iron Man and the Incredible Hulk are not characters who are recognizable all over the world. YES, they all had a few good movies, but SUPERMAN, BATMAN and maybe SPIDERMAN (maybe), transcend comics, tv and movies. In 500 years, Superman and Batman will still be around. Like Zeus, Beowulf, and Macbeth. They are modern mythology. Here's the real test. Show your grandmother some pictures of super heroes. She'll know Superman and Batman. She won't know an Iron Man from a whole in the ground. Or a Hulk. Or a Blade. Or a Thing. Or a Daredevil. Or a...gasp....Wolverine either! When the current batch of movies run their course, the Marvel characters will settle back into mainstream oblivion. Fun while it lasted. Sure. Superman and Batman. When comics disappeared, they endured. When comics finally vanish all together......you get the picture. It’s all about Superman and Batman.

What you call Marvel Comics has existed since the sixties. Period. Don’t pull the Captain America, Namor and Human Torch thing.

DC has Superman and Batman. THE two A List characters.

Marvel has Spider-Man, who will always rank third behind Superman and Batman. ALWAYS.

Every other character at Marvel and DC ranks as B list. Wolverine, Iron Man and the Incredible Hulk are not characters who are recognizable all over the world. YES, they all had a few good movies, but SUPERMAN, BATMAN and maybe SPIDERMAN (maybe), transcend comics, tv and movies. In 500 years, Superman and Batman will still be around. Like Zeus, Beowulf, and Macbeth. They are modern mythology.

Here’s the real test. Show your grandmother some pictures of super heroes. She’ll know Superman and Batman. She won’t know an Iron Man from a whole in the ground. Or a Hulk. Or a Blade. Or a Thing. Or a Daredevil. Or a…gasp….Wolverine either!

When the current batch of movies run their course, the Marvel characters will settle back into mainstream oblivion. Fun while it lasted. Sure.

Superman and Batman.

When comics disappeared, they endured.

When comics finally vanish all together……you get the picture.

]]> By: Brian http://www.newuniversity.org/2009/02/features/comics_marvel_vs_dc177/comment-page-1/#comment-161 Brian Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:07:50 +0000 http://newuword1.thomasjbaker.net/?page_id=5549#comment-161 I'm a big DC fan, i like Marvel too but I've just been a DC fan my whole life. You are right about movies though. Marvel does an outstanding job in how they do movies and how many they put out. DC/Warner bros. need to realize they can do movies with others besides just Superman and Batman. Hell they could make 6 kick ass Green Lantern Corps movies that would be something like Star Wars. I keep hoping for DC to do movies about JLA,Flash, Green Lantern, etc. While i read more DC then Marvel, Marvel has put out movies like Spiderman,FF4, Hulk, X-men, Ironman, and Punisher while DC seem to only be able to Bats and Sups on film. I’m a big DC fan, i like Marvel too but I’ve just been a DC fan my whole life. You are right about movies though. Marvel does an outstanding job in how they do movies and how many they put out. DC/Warner bros. need to realize they can do movies with others besides just Superman and Batman. Hell they could make 6 kick ass Green Lantern Corps movies that would be something like Star Wars. I keep hoping for DC to do movies about JLA,Flash, Green Lantern, etc. While i read more DC then Marvel, Marvel has put out movies like Spiderman,FF4, Hulk, X-men, Ironman, and Punisher while DC seem to only be able to Bats and Sups on film.

]]> By: Theisos http://www.newuniversity.org/2009/02/features/comics_marvel_vs_dc177/comment-page-1/#comment-148 Theisos Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:17:54 +0000 http://newuword1.thomasjbaker.net/?page_id=5549#comment-148 Oh gosh. Where does anyone being to talk about how biased and constricted this article is? February 2009? DC Comics has already had massive universe altering crossovers stemming from an event of a similar nature occurring decades ago. You seem to have forgotten the first Tim Burton Batman movie and the first Richard Donner Superman movie that were both huge hits. People as old as myself grew on up those those movies and their sequels. Batman is the most popular Superhero on this planet. The animated Justice League series and the first Batman animated series dwarfs all Marvel animated series combined in terms of impact. Neither universe is somehow easier to "connect to" than the other. That is simply silly. That notion is all in your head because you prefer Marvel. I think that preference depends on who prefers which camp. I like DC Comics because their superheroes are so much fun. Their villains are very deadly but just as much fun. DC superheroes are the definition of superheroes. Marvel has fewer superheroes and more meta humans playing superheroes. Marvel produces more of a different breed of heroes. Marvel is very creative when it comes to the mechanics of their superheroes. DC on the other hand relies on the idea of classic superheroes. Two facets of masked super powered beings doing what's right and fighting for what they believe in. Both fun. Both different. Oh gosh. Where does anyone being to talk about how biased and constricted this article is? February 2009? DC Comics has already had massive universe altering crossovers stemming from an event of a similar nature occurring decades ago. You seem to have forgotten the first Tim Burton Batman movie and the first Richard Donner Superman movie that were both huge hits. People as old as myself grew on up those those movies and their sequels. Batman is the most popular Superhero on this planet. The animated Justice League series and the first Batman animated series dwarfs all Marvel animated series combined in terms of impact. Neither universe is somehow easier to “connect to” than the other. That is simply silly. That notion is all in your head because you prefer Marvel. I think that preference depends on who prefers which camp. I like DC Comics because their superheroes are so much fun. Their villains are very deadly but just as much fun. DC superheroes are the definition of superheroes. Marvel has fewer superheroes and more meta humans playing superheroes. Marvel produces more of a different breed of heroes. Marvel is very creative when it comes to the mechanics of their superheroes. DC on the other hand relies on the idea of classic superheroes. Two facets of masked super powered beings doing what’s right and fighting for what they believe in. Both fun. Both different.

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