Oh, so you’re gay? You can’t sit with us. Also, you’re unfit to defend our country.
In 1993, President Clinton implemented the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy, which prohibits gay, lesbian and bisexual individuals from openly disclosing their sexuality while serving in the military. Furthermore, those who reveal their homosexually, whether verbally or through engaging in homosexual acts, are discharged.
But in recent months, President Obama’s campaign to repeal the policy has finally begun to take motion. Support was drawn from Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, both of whom agreed in front of the Senate Armed Services Committee on Tuesday, Feb. 2, that ending this policy “would be the right thing to do.”
Although “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” was implemented as a response to violence within the military (U.S. Navy Officer Allen R. Schindler was brutally murdered in 1992 after his sexual orientation was revealed), it was mainly a way to gloss over the bigger issue of discrimination. The policy, rather than working to correct the mindset of those who are prejudiced toward gays, just ignores the fact that gays exist at all, forcing them to hide their sexuality.
Two major questions still remain, though, that have delayed further progress with this long overdue repeal.
The first concern is the timing of repealing such a controversial policy and the worry that hastily made decisions on this decade-old policy might make a mess. But if we look at other countries in the past – Britain, Canada, Israel – we can see that all of these militaries successfully altered their policies almost immediately after open gay service was allowed by politicians. By keeping this situation in a state of limbo, President Obama not only expresses his own uncertainty on the topic but also causes the general public to remain uncertain.
Practical issues, such as banning public displays of affection on military grounds and privacy concerns, such as lockers rooms and showers, are being closely debated in order to avoid discomfort. But why is this one of the main problems at hand?
Back in 1983 when Israel changed its policies and stated that “homosexuals would not be limited in their positions or discharged from service solely because of their sexual orientation,” they adopted policies that accommodated the few who did not feel comfortable — both homosexual and heterosexual. Rather than discriminating against those who supposedly are the cause of any conflict, the Israeli military compromised. Compare that to what happened to the 12,500 homosexual or bisexual soldiers who have been discharged (read: discriminated against) by the U.S. military after being found out.
The other and probably more significant concern is how supporters of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” will react. In 2008, a Washington Post-ABC News poll showed that 75 percent of Americans believe that openly gay people should be allowed to serve in the military. One year later, CNN did another poll that showed a dramatic drop to 52 percent of Americans supporting the right for homosexual individuals to serve in the military.
So, what’s with the big drop? One of the biggest concerns of this repeal is the timing. As Mullen put it, “In the middle of two wars and in the middle of this giant security threat, why would we want to get into this debate?” Although this is a valid concern, it is also the type of thinking that prevented social progress in the past. Why are we putting civil rights — especially those of qualified military candidates fighting for our own country — on the back burner?
So, when is the right time for this change to occur? Are we waiting for some type of flashing green light to tell us when to go? Or are we just going to take care of more pressing issues before we can make room for something as measly as our own civil rights?
Today, it’s highly unlikely that anyone would say that an African-American shouldn’t be able to serve in our military. Rewind 62 years and it was said. President Truman desegregated the Armed Forces in 1948 under a population that felt the same sentiments toward blacks as some Americans do toward homosexuals. If they, a generation that supposedly was more prejudiced than we view ourselves today, can get over it and adapt, so can we.
There will never be a perfect time for this. There are always going to be those who disagree with something that will benefit the greater good. But by changing the standard of treatment toward homosexual and bisexual members of the military, President Obama can lay the foundation for a more equal military and, eventually, a more equal society. It won’t be easy and, like any other decision Obama will make, it will be scrutinized. But there is no doubt that the opposition that we face now will pay off in the future.
General John Shalikashvili, former Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, confidently stated in the St. Petersberg Times: “Israel took exactly the opposite approach [from the US] … 14 years later, Israelis are convinced they made the right decision.”
If not now, when?
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Alessandra Says:
“compare that to what happened to the 12,500 homosexual or bisexual soldiers who have been discharged (read: discriminated against) by the U.S. military after being found out.”
Let’s compare! But with less of a sloppy, biased research of the issue. The US military has almost 1.5 million people, 12 500 represents nothing. Furthermore,
from:
http://article.nationalreview.com/424334/defending-dont-ask/mackubin-thomas-owens?page=2
critics claimed that homosexuals are victims of military “witch hunts.” A reader of the New York Times and the Washington Post could be forgiven for believing that homosexuals are being “drummed out” of the military on a regular basis. But the numbers don’t support this contention. In FY2008, the last year for which figures are available, the Pentagon discharged 633 men and women under the ban. In a military with millions of members, this hardly constitutes a witch hunt.
And as Moskos pointed out in 1993, 80 percent of homosexuality-related discharges resulted from voluntary statements, a figure that has not changed. Furthermore, almost all discharges for homosexuality occur in the first term of enlistment, and more than half in the first year. The fact that so many of those who voluntarily claim to be homosexuals do so early in their enlistment is an important point. As Gen. Carl Mundy, former commandant of the Marine Corps, observed, this “is a very demanding period during which it is not uncommon for those who are not equal to the challenge of military life to seek opportunities for release from the service. A claim to be homosexual, whether factual or not, provides such an opportunity.”
While discussing this issue with my Naval War College seminar, a student related an anecdote that illustrates the problem. He was the executive officer of a ship about to make a six-month deployment. Over a period of weeks, a female sailor approached him with a number of reasons why she could not make the deployment. He rejected them and advised her that she would indeed deploy with her ship. Finally he received a call from the JAG advising him that she would not deploy because she had confessed to being gay.
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Secondly, who are you to claim you know the reasons for each and everyone of these people being discharged?
People like you are so dangerous because you will always lie about cases such as these:
My CO was court marshalled because he was harassing his men in the showers: that behavior is unacceptable regardless of sexual preference. Had he controlled himself and kept his sex life to himself, he wouldn’t have had a problem.
http://uk.askmen.com/includes/components/posts/postPage.php?id=966270&p=1
I have a military friend in the UK who knows what it is like to serve with openly homosexuals in the military. His experience is that the homosexuals are promoted ahead of heteros and then they in turn promote those who will go along with their proclivities and serve as playmates. Heteros not only take a back seat in promotions but, more importantly, are harassed.
The military is not supposed to be for sex games, but you are letting political correctness change that perspective.
http://laiglesforum.com/
How many such cases are there? We will never know if we depend on people like you for information.
Posted on February 9th, 2010 at 4:31 am
jason Says:
Haha. When I was in, I knew all kinds of guys willing to make out so they could get thrown out.
See your company commander walking in and dude says, “Hey Sir, I’m gay.”
“So.”
Turns out, we all went to war anyway. So, while the DADT policy exists, there haven’t been to many expulsions in a long, long time. Not while we’re at war, that is.
Posted on February 9th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Tiff Says:
Alessandra, you’re so right. 12,500 is nothing compared to 1.5M. Not everyone counts right? I’m sure no one would mind if there was one less of you in the world.
Quick lesson in numbers. The ratio of 1 homophobic friend to 1.5M soldiers is very much smaller than the ratio of 12,500 homos to 1.5M soldiers. Besides, we all know that when someone mentions a friend from another country they’re imaginary people.
That was a cute little anecdote you gave us about the female sailor who didn’t feel like going on deployment so she cried gay instead. If you’re so concerned about how unfair it is that members of the military use their sexuality to get out, isn’t that more of a reason to get rid of DADT? Wusses of the armed forces, if you can’t hang, you should have thought harder before you enlisted. Don’t compromise your integrity by making out with your buddies to get booted.
Your random shower example isn’t even relevant to your “argument.” He would have gotten heat regardless of his sexual orientation. Once you become smart enough to find a job, you’ll discover that both homos and heteros get in trouble for sexual harassment.
By the way, I didn’t bother with any of your links. You’re all bent out of shape about biased research…but one of your articles was from askmen.com. Also, I didn’t want to slow down my computer while I watch my lesbian porn here on base.
Posted on February 10th, 2010 at 2:34 am