Comments on: Letter to the Editor: MSU’s Responds to Michael Oren’s Visit

By: Khalil

Khalil — Thu, 03 Mar 2011 07:55:28 +0000

At the end of the day, these students are expressing something that none of you non-muslim/non-arabs can understand at this point in your lives. You do not understand what it is like to see your people dying all over the world, and than to have well educated, respected diplomats and other figures from Western countries who are RESPONSIBLE for it just walk around, enjoying their lives, prospering and speaking to friendly crowds of people who do not know how much blood is on their hands. Instead of constantly attacking Muslims whenever we stand up and say something, try admitting to some guilt. Be honest in your research about Michael Oren. If your research leads you to the reality that there is, in fact, blood on his hands, notice that wikipedia did not provide you with that information. Realize that the Israeli lobby is very powerful and very manipulative, and that just because the’yre white, wear suits, talk about democracy, and seem just like Americans…their military is committing atrocious violations of human rights, and the U.N. even condemns them. Do all this if you have a heart and really want to understand the human condition. If you don’t, than don’t, because frankly the true Muslims dont care either way. We know the truth always prevails, be it in this life or the next.

By: Haaretz reporting

Haaretz reporting — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:37:51 +0000

Haaretz is reporting that Oren is willing to come back to UC Irvine to exchange ideas.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1155135.html

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:24:25 +0000

The MSU’s behavior is embarrassing and has been embarrassing since I was at UCI. The MSU is making a joke of my school. In graduate school, the only thing my fellow students know about UCI is the way the Muslim Student Union behaves.

By: Zot Zot

Zot Zot — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:57:59 +0000

Ali nailed it.

If the students didn’t want to hear the guy speak and couldn’t control their emotions, they should have stayed home. They could have protested outside. They could have posed challenging questions to Oren durign the question and answer period. Instead, they choose to violate the rights of those who attended the lecture to hear a guest lecture speak.

People attending the lecture may have ended up disagreeing with Oren. Their convictions may have been stronger by having challenged their beliefs. The students who interrupted the speech do not understand the value of the First Amendment. They seem to think that anyone representing Israel should be denied the right to speak on the campus.

By: Ali

Ali — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:13:18 +0000

Robaby presents a fantasy interpretation of Sharia law. His presentation of Sharia law cannot be found in any one of the 57 OIC member countries. And, in fact, in all 57 of these OIC countries Sharia law as practiced is not tolerant or compassionate, but is repressive and cruel instead.

The bottom line is we in the West practice the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. All Western countries are signatories of this declaration.

Meanwhile there is not one OIC country that has agreed to honor the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, for instead they have agreed to honor the Cairo Delegation of Human Rights. This document condones a two-tier legal and human rights system where Muslim countries and Muslim are awarded greater rights than those allowed non-Muslims and non-Muslim countries.

So Robaby can spin Sharia law so as to confuse those who know little about it, but the simple truth is if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck than chances are it is a duck. By this I mean that if it quacks like Saudi Arabia, or it walks like Iran, and if it practices human rights like Somalia than chances are it is a Sharia State, for these three countries all practice Sharia law. And what does this say about human rights under Sharia law? Nothing other than that if it is enacted throughout the world than all non-Muslims might as well be dead ducks.

By: F. Levin

F. Levin — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 05:02:23 +0000

Foreign students who can not respect the rules of their host country and educational institution should be expelled and sent home. They are guests, not residents. They are here to learn. If they don’t like how we do things, they are free to leave. And if they break our laws, they should expect to be deported.

By: M Ejaz

M Ejaz — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:33:01 +0000

I believe it’s totally unacceptable to interrupt a speech of a public figure such as Mr Oren

I believe in people getting there point across but only in a civilised manner

I believe the actions of a few MSU students should not reflect the opinions of the entire university

I believe in international laws and regulations.

I also believe in being able to live in freedom, especially in your own country, and I believe the use of phosphorus on civilians is illegal, as is the murder of hundreds of innocent women and children, as is the occupation, I believe the weapons of aggression are unnecessary, and finally I believe the students did a marvellous job to stand up to express their views in whatever peaceful manner they chose.

By: Tina Kader

Tina Kader — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:15:41 +0000

I agree it is wrong to interrupt any speaker but it’s more wrong to allow anyone involved in genocide to speak at any institution in America. No matter what anyone says, Israel is responsible for colonization of a country that is not theirs, the murder of civilians, and anyone that’s been there has witnessed knows they are pretty much doing to the Palestinians what Nazi Germany did to them…..but at a slower rate and using US tax payers dollars. The US should not allow such speakers from countries that oppress people, to speak……and although the students wrong to have protested by yelling out insults one can understand their frustration. They are still American’s…..no matter their color or origin.

By: Qazu

Qazu — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 00:40:27 +0000

I totally agree with robaby1984. The idiocy of arresting these courageous students is apparent.

What a lot of you do not realize is that these protests were not sponsored by MSU; they have stated that numerous times. They were acting on their own accord, even though not all the students (and their supporters) are Muslim.

By: Mark

Mark — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:12:25 +0000

So let me get this straight – I can exercise my freedom of speech by loudly interrupting you every time you try to make a point?

In this case, the MSU had every right to make the above announcement and to peacefully protest OUTSIDE the venue. The students who disrupted deserve disciplinary action from UCI, not protection of their supposed free speech rights.

If you want to exercise civil disobedience, you must accept the consequences of your actions. Thoreau refused bail, asking Emerson why he (Emerson) was not in jail.

If the last sentence means nothing to you, read up on civil disobedience before engaging in adolescent “protests” like that of 9 February.